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Written By Unknown on Selasa, 12 Februari 2013 | 23.14

Essendon boss Ian Robson responds to calls for heads to roll following Stephen Dank's interview last night.

Steve Dank has told the ABC's 7.30 that Essendon coach James Hird was fully informed about the nature of the program the biochemist was paid to run at the club. Courtesy: 7.30, ABC

The scientist at the centre of Essendon's controversial performance supplements program says it was within the rules of the World Anti-Doping Agency. Courtesy: 7.30, ABC

Stephen Dank speaks out on the ABC's 7.30 program last night. Picture: Channel ABC Source: Supplied

ESSENDON coaches took drugs that were banned for players, the former club sports scientist at the centre of the Bombers' drugs crisis claims.

Stephen Dank last night said coaches - whom he did not name - took substances not approved by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

"A couple of coaches were using supplements that were a little bit outside the WADA code but, again, they were entitled to it and nothing illegal in those," Dank said.

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In an explosive interview with ABC's 7.30, Dank also claimed head coach James Hird had full knowledge of the players' 2012 supplement regime, now at the centre of a doping authority probe.

Hird declined to respond to Dank's claims.

In other developments in the footy drugs scandal:

- AFL chief Andrew Demetriou said he had "serious concerns" about players mixing with bikies.

- CLUBS will be alerted in the next two weeks that phone taps have picked up the names of some players in contact with criminals.

- BLOOD samples could be sent to Germany as part of the investigation of Essendon's drug controversy.

- THE AFL maintained it could not notify a second club about an alleged rogue doper within its ranks.

Coaches are not bound by the restrictions WADA places on performance-enhancing drugs.

Dank stressed the substances administered to players were all "very, very legal and within the constraints of WADA".

Essendon's former sports scientist Steve Dank has told the ABC's 7.30 that coaches at the club took supplements that are prohibited for players. Courtesy: 7.30, ABC

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Dank stressed last night "all levels" at the club were given regular details of the supplements program.

"There was a collective involvement - you know it wasn't just Steve Dank," he said.

"There was certainly input from people outside myself. There was a very significant involvement from Dean (Robinson) as the high-performance manager, there was detailed discussion with James Hird, there was detailed discussion with the club doctor (Bruce Reid).

"They were sort of the main people involved in the knowledge of the program."

Wing and a prayer for Bombers

On the coaches' own drug regimes, Dank alleged: "There were some differences in what we offered the coaches. Let's face it, the coaches themselves are not subjected to any WADA code.

"Off the top of my head three, four or five taking vitamin supplements, protein supplements.

"A couple of coaches were using supplements that were a little bit outside the WADA code but again they were entitled to it and nothing illegal in those."

Essendon recruit Brendon Goddard says his new Bombers teammates are anxious about the doping probe.


The sports scientist declared his innocence throughout the interview, saying he was a biochemist and supplement programs were regularly used at most top AFL clubs.

He denied injecting players with a banned substance and said he was "very surprised" when the club called a conference announcing it was unaware of what the program involved.

Dank said the only supplements intravenously supplied were Vitamin D and Vitamin C. He denied peptides were injected but said up to four different peptide formulas could have been given to players.

Sports scientist a broken man: lawyer

"We had a program, it was well documented, it was discussed at all levels throughout the club in terms of what the supplements were and the regime and dosages, and what time of the day or week you know," he said.

Dank runs two other rejuvenation clinics in Victoria and NSW that he said ran programs separate to his work with elite football teams.

A substance known as GHRP-6 or peptide 6 - listed on Mr Dank's clinic website - is a human growth hormone banned by the Australian Anti-Doping Authority of Australia.

Dank admitted selling the substance but denied it was used on elite athletes. He also rejected links with criminal gangs.


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Scouting report: Intra-club matches

Mick Malthouse has a word to Andrew Walker during the Blues' intra-club. Photo: Michael Dodge/Getty Images Source: HWT Image Library

Shane Crawford channels his inner Liam Neeson when he discovers Gary Ablett is 'taken' and tries to organise a swap with one of his mates

YOU could be forgiven for not knowing, but the Sherrins have already been bounced at most AFL clubs.

The weather forecast is still in the 30s, cricket is still on television at night and the calendar still reads February, but intra-club practice matches are under way.

With the NAB Cup just four sleeps away, SuperFooty has gone behind the scenes to dig out all the gold from your club's low-key trial matches.

Get your SuperCoach notebook ready.

CARLTON

ABOUT 10 first-choice players were rested for the first hit out under new coach Mick Malthouse's watchful eye. But there was an air of familiarity, with both Blues sides clearly intent on hugging the boundary, as the Pies were under Mick's reign.

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Brock McLean was the midfield standout, racking up possessions with ease. He looks in fine touch, while Kane Lucas, who has promised that breakout year for so long now, showed glimpses.

Key defender Matthew Watson excelled, with his lethal boot and ability to read the play making him a standout. Jeff Garlett surprisingly pushed towards a halfback flank in a sign the goalkicking dazzler could be unleashed this year, as Mick did to Leon Davis in the pair's final year at the Pies.

Andrew Walker provided his usual flare, while blonde-haired Nick Graham won plenty of admirers. The bargain midfielder, nabbed at No. 54, won plenty of clearances.

Rhys O'Keeffe, the classy left-footer who kicks goals, impressed and is a highly regarded internally at Visy Park.

The Blues will play another scratch match on Friday.

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MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - FEBRUARY 06: Shaun Hampson is tackled by Brock McLean during a Carlton Blues AFL Intra-Club match at Visy Park on February 6, 2013 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Michael Dodge/Getty Images) Source: HWT Image Library


COLLINGWOOD

IT looks like Andrew Krakouer is back. The magical forward showed plenty of tricks at Victoria Park on Friday, kicking a big bag of goals and avoiding

Quinten Lynch has been all the rage this summer and he justified that with some big grabs and working nicely into the Pies' structure.

Clinton Young got on the paddock despite foot surgery, while fellow recruits Jordan Russell showed poise in defence and big Ben Hudson hasn't lost any of his rucking nous.

Luke Ball boundary umpired, while Dale Thomas sat out and remains Collingwood's biggest worry with his ankle concern.

Dane Swan moved OK, but don't expect the likes of him or Scott Pendlebury to really flick the switch until next month.

Swan's fitness is supreme.

ESSENDON

IT was more bad news for the Bombers, with skilled onballer Jake Melksham suffering a broken hand.

He'll miss Friday night's NAB Cup opener, along with captain Jobe Watson (knee) and star David Zaharakis (quad).

Zaharakis remains the biggest worry of that trio, while Brendon Goddard's pre-season continues to be outstanding.


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Nathan Lovett-Murray captained the Indigenous All-Stars on Friday night and did well, but Paddy Ryder was the star.

The ruckman towelled up Orren Stephenson in a dazzling display, while Leroy Jetta provided a highlight in win with a 60m bomb goal.

RICHMOND

NOT a great showing put in when Richmond played the All-Stars in Alice Springs, but Tiger fans, keep your memberships away from all microwaves.

It was closer to a Coburg side than Damien Hardwick's best 18 on the paddock, while there were still some positives to extract from the 50-point belting.

Matthew McDonough looks like a shrewd addition. The medium forward showed his smarts and accuracy with a nice goal, while No. 9 pick Nick Vlastuin showed his trademark ferocious attack which is likely to earn him an advanced debut.

Luke McGuane and Aaron Edwards started in the forward 50, and with all due respect, the Tigers will be a far scarier outfit when Jack Riewoldt and Ty Vickery take their places.

Todd Elton showed promising signs as a tall forward in tough conditions, while Dusty Martin lifted after the first break, albeit his execution surprisingly let him down.

AllStars v Richmond,Alice Springs,Dustin Martin caught holding the ball, Picture: Wayne Ludbey Source: HWT Image Library


ST KILDA

STEPHEN Milne was all the talk after his four-goal effort, but you suspect the showings of boom recruit Tom Hickey and rising star Jack Newnes would have coach Scott Watters even more elated.

Hickey, who the Saints snaffled from the Gold Coast to aid their shallow ruck stocks, monstered his rivals in the hit-outs early before performing well against Justin Koschitzke.

He looks set to make a big impact this season, while Newnes' class was on show for all to see.

David Armitage was among the standout performance, winning plenty of touches and sneaking forward to kick goals, while Milne's offsiders Ahmed Saad (two goals) and Terry Milera (three goals) again looked lively.

Beau Maister (formerly Wilkes), who has trimmed down, marked well up forward in a big boost to the attacking potency. The man with a swankier name could be on his way to a beefed-up season.

Josh Saunders showed how brave he is and was the pick of the kids, while fellow draftee Nathan Wright has impressed this summer.

But the Saints' second pick, mercurial forward Spencer White, faces an uphill battle to make an impact in his first year as he battles to overcome a wrist injury.

St Kilda intraclub practice match at Seaford. Picture: Klein Michael Source: HWT Image Library


ADELAIDE

THE Crows boast one of the healthiest lists in the league and staged an intra-club behind close doors on Friday. Jason Porplyzia and Lewis Johnston, playing on opposing sides, booted three goals each, while Brad Crouch justified the hype surrounding his debut.

The hard-at-it but explosive midfielder, who coach Brenton Sanderson loves, is ready for a Round 1 debut after a year dominating at SANFL level.

He played in the midfield and drifted to half-forward, while ball magnet and bargain draft pick Rory Atkins showed off his neat kicking.

Taylor Walker was held goalless despite his side striking 16 majors in a positive sign for Adelaide's load sharing.

The battle to be Tex's sidekick will drag into the NAB Cup with Josh Jenkins and Shaun McKernan still vying for the role vacated by Kurt Tippett.

Crows training, Max Basheer Reserve. Brad Crouch Picture: Sarah Reed Source: HWT Image Library


FREMANTLE

AARON Sandilands dominated the ruck and continues to impress after two seasons plagued by two injuries.

The big man is running pain free and, at 30, is set for a bumper year.

Jack Hannath, the man Freo pinched at the 11th hour from Melbourne's clutches, kicked two goals and provided a target up forward.

Stephen Hill and Danyle Pearce are set to run riot on opposing wings this year, showing off their skill and dash at the Dockers' trial match.

Haydn Ballantyne spent more time in the midfield, while Fremantle's best three players – Matthew Pavlich, Nathan Fyfe and David Mundy – sat it out.

PORT ADELAIDE

THE Power played its SANFL equivalent – Port Magpies – and dominated in unsurprising fashion.

Jay Schulz snagged five majors in the first half before retiring, while raw draftee Mason Shaw played the second half and jagged two majors in front of the 4000-strong crowd.

Youngster Jake Neade booted two goals, including providing the highlight when he danced around several opponents before finding the sticks.

Former Bomber Angus Monfries unselfishly set up a few goals before unleashing in the midfield, while WAFL recruit Kane Mitchell blitzed in the midfield.

His tank looks impressive and the long-haired ball magnet could break through for senior action this season.

Mature-bodied clearance king Ollie Wines, Port's prized No. 7 draft pick, sizzled and is seemingly headed towards a Round 1 debut and MCG showdown against best mate Jack Viney.

For the record, the Power saluted by 129 points.

Jake Neade handballs to Kane Mitchell Picture: Simon Cross Source: HWT Image Library


SYDNEY

THE Swans played just a 40-minute trial match before holding a big skills session at Lakeside Oval on Friday, but it was again veteran Jarrad McVeigh who shone.

The premiership star has been a standout all pre-season for the Swans, who will host a 60-minute scratch match this Friday. Youngster Brandon Jack tried hard, while Harry Cunningham's midfield and forward work excited Sydney's coaching artillery.

Lewis Jetta is another Swan who returned from the flag victory in super touch and is looking to build on last year's breakout season.


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AFL boss warns on bikie links

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou speaking at a press conference after the release of an ACC report into drug and crime links to Australian sport last week. Picture: Gary Ramage Source: News Limited

THE AFL has revealed "serious concerns" about players associating with outlaw bikie gangs.

AFL boss Andrew Demetriou said last night all clubs had been warned of growing links between footballers and organised crime groups, namely bikies, who dealt in illicit and performance-enhancing drugs.

Phone taps have picked up the names of some players, given to the AFL by the Australian Crime Commission. Clubs will be alerted at meetings during the next fortnight.

"It is a serious concern and should be of serious concern for all those people involved in sport," Mr Demetriou said about the bikie infiltration.

"We were briefed by the ACC about the threats of organised crime infiltrating Australian sport, and they use 'vulnerable players', they called them, through this link of illicit drugs or performance-enhancing drugs or gambling because they are all linked.

"When we had the drugs summit, the federal police and the Victorian police told every CEO exactly the same thing.

They said organised crime figures are cohorting with your players, you need to be aware."

At the drugs summit, high-ranking Victorian policeman and former Richmond premiership player Emmett Dunne gave an example of how organised crime figures attempted to trap officers in compromising positions at strip clubs.

He said one strip club offered free entry and free alcohol if an officer "flashed his badge", to potentially catch him acting improperly and then use it against him.

One club CEO told the Herald Sun last night: "The inference is, that's what they could do to players."

Mr Demetriou said senior officials at every club would be briefed over the ACC report and drug code changes.

The Herald Sun has also learned:

A RETIRED AFL legend has links to a drug-dealing Melbourne bikie.

A FOOTY glamour boy was found using cocaine in a toilet at a club supporters' day.

A PROMINENT player was caught snorting cocaine during a promotional barbecue.

Victoria Police sources said yesterday they were also aware of frequent contact between bikies and footballers.

Much of the contact was through popular inner-suburban nightclubs frequented by both parties, and strip clubs.

One detective said it was possible that in many cases footballers were not aware of who they were talking to.

mark.robinson@news.com.au


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Spotlight moves to the coaches

Stephen Dank's allegations likely to widen investigation. Source: The Daily Telegraph

ASADA is likely to investigate allegations Essendon coaches used performance-enhancing substances, despite the AFL's drug code applying only to players.

Essendon refused to confirm or deny substance use by any member of its coaching department, following allegations by sacked club biochemist Stephen Dank.

"To be perfectly honest, there were a couple of coaches that were using some supplements, if you like, that were a little bit outside the WADA code," Dank said on the ABC's 7.30.

"But, again, they were entitled to it. There's certainly nothing illegal there."

An AFL spokesman said yesterday ASADA's investigation was wide-ranging and could include those allegations.
"The code only applies to players within the club, not coaches or officials," he said.

"I would imagine everything alleged on the 7.30 (interview) would form part of the investigation to varying degrees."

Dank's allegations drew widespread condemnation from football and sports medicine worlds yesterday, with leading figures staggered at the potential for non-WADA compliant drugs to be at Windy Hill.

Essendon senior assistant Mark Thompson has denied he took those drugs.

Calls to sack Hird off the mark

Also in the Dons coaching department last year were senior coach James Hird, assistants Sean Wellman, Simon Goodwin and Matthew Egan, development coaches James Byrne and Rick Ladson, and high-performance coach Dean "The Weapon" Robinson.

Buckley wants more specifics

Some sports science experts were stunned that practices including coaches using performance-enhancing drugs might be allowed in AFL football.

"Mud sticks, and that's just a harsh reality," one said.

"Whatever happens, there will always be a cloud over 'Hirdy' and everyone there. It will hang over Essendon for decades. They have become the drug club."

AFL coaches and club executives can be fined up to $10,000 for administrative breaches like failing to keep proper records under the drug code, but are not subject to testing.

Exercise and Sports Science Australia board member David Bishop, pushing for greater regulation and accreditation in the industry, was shocked to hear about potential drug use by coaches.

"It is an amazing revelation," Bishop said.

"Even if he is denying he administered to athletes, it is allowing people to make that link. It is a pretty shocking revelation. You wouldn't expect that of a sports scientist.

"I know he gave the example of a medical doctor working at a club and having prohibited substances in his bag, but I think good practice and sensible practice is that you don't bring anything into the club that could be construed as performance enhancing drugs that could risk the livelihood of players."
 


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Anzac Day game investigation

"We obviously won't train properly, it's all about recovery; it's all about the high performance guys, we will leave the guys in their hands." - James Hird before Anzac Day, 2012 Source: Herald Sun

ESSENDON'S rushed preparations for last year's Anzac Day game against Collingwood will come under close scrutiny by anti-doping investigators.

The Bombers had a 94-hour turnaround between their match against Carlton on April 21 and the Magpies clash on April 25.

The recovery period was managed by fitness staff Dean Robinson and Stephen Dank.

A source said yesterday: "The whole season will be scrutinised but heavy scrutiny will be on the period leading up to Anzac Day."

The Bombers beat Carlton by 30 points and lost to Collingwood by a point.

The activities of Dank and Robinson, which included the use of injections and intravenous drips, are at the centre of an Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority investigation into the possible use of performance-enhancing drugs by the club last year.

In the lead-up to Anzac Day, coach James Hird said about the four-day turnaround: "We obviously won't train properly, it's all about recovery; it's all about the high performance guys, we will leave the guys in their hands."

They made one change for Anzac Day - Michael Hurley out, Jake Carlisle in.

Hird said after the Blues game "there would be five or six that probably won't get up for the Collingwood game in four days time".

The Herald Sun is not suggesting Bombers players did use performance-enhancing drugs and Dank has strongly denied anything inappropriate was administered.

Calls to sack Hird off the mark

But if proved, a ban of six months to two years can be levied at players, even if use was without their knowledge.

Spotlight moves to the coaches

Club chiefs told the players' parents on Monday night that, in their knowledge, banned drugs were not given to the players.

Buckley wants more specifics

Parents were told the club had documented each and every supplement supplied to players during the season.

Those electronic documents will be given to ASADA.

Essendon boss Ian Robson responds to calls for heads to roll following Stephen Dank's interview last night.


As the Bombers prepare to open all aspects of their club to the ASADA inquiry, it can be revealed:

HIRD and assistant coach Mark Thompson had a disagreement over Robinson in December.

DANK had his authority curbed about halfway through last season.

ESSENDON continued its supplement program while Dank took a back seat. He left the club at the end of the year.

The Thompson-Hird disagreement is understood to have centred on whether Robinson should continue as high-performance manger.

Hird wanted a review of the position and Thompson wanted Robinson to continue.

Sponsorship standoff hurting clubs

That Robinson had two years to run on a contract worth up to $300,000 a year helped sway the decision to continue with Robinson, although his suspension after the announcement of the ASADA inquiry suggests his career at Essendon is over.

Dank last week told the Herald Sun he had not given players banned drugs.

The Bombers are bracing for a forensic examination of their supplement regimen including what was administered and the amount.

Coaches, players and support staff will be interviewed. Clubs officials refused to comment yesterday on the investigation.

Coach James Hird (back on) instructs the team as a group during an Essendon training session at Tullamarine last week. Picture: Hamish Blair Source: Herald Sun


WINDY HELL: ESSENDON'S PRE-SEASON WOES
LATE NOVEMBER, 2012

Essendon denies to the Herald Sun that it has concerns over its sports science department after sacking sports scientist Stephen Dank.

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 4
Essendon again denies to the Herald Sun that it has an issue in its sports science department, particularly around performance-enhancing supplements.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 5
Essendon holds a press conference at AFL House where it announces it has asked the AFL and Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority to investigate the club over concerns players may have been unknowingly given supplements that do not comply with the WADA code. It is revealed that Bombers players received off-site injections of supplements in the stomach.

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 6
Dank denies to the Herald Sun that he gave Essendon players banned supplements, feared to be banned peptides.

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 7
- The ACC, Federal Government and a coalition of major sporting bodies front a press conference in Canberra as the ACC releases a report saying performance-enhancing drug use is widespread in Australian sport and that there is also of links to organised crime and concern about match-fixing.

- The AFL Commission holds an extraordinary meeting and announces that the league's integrity department will be beefed up.

SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 10
AFL second in command Gillon McLachlan confirms the league has been made aware that a player at a second club is also under investigation for possible use of performance-enhancing drugs.

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 11
- The AFL refuses to alert the second club on the advice of its lawyers.

- The 17 clubs other than Essendon tell the Herald Sun that they have not been contacted by the ACC or the AFL in relation to the matter.

- Dank appears on ABC TV and declares some Essendon coaches had taken WADA-banned supplements.

- He again denies administering banned drugs to players.

YESTERDAY
- Sources close to Essendon say they expect heavy scrutiny over the short turnaround between Round 3 win over Carlton and the Anzac Day clash.

- It emerges Hird and Thompson in December had a disagreement over whether Robinson should stay at the Dons, Hird pushing for his departure.


WHERE THE INVESTIGATION STANDS
- ASADA and AFL investigators will interview all Essendon players and officials, as well as other relevant parties.

- Samples taken during the 2012 season likely to be flown to Cologne for special testing for peptides.

- Electronic and other records relating to supplement program will be examined.

- Details about investigations into the second club remain unknown.

WHAT THE MAIN PLAYERS SAY
JAMES HIRD, COACH

"I'm shocked to be sitting here. As a coach, I take full responsibility for what happens in our footy department. It's my belief we've done everything right." - February 5

DAVID EVANS, CHAIRMAN
"This is a minefield ... we've received information that's concerned us." - February 5

STEPHEN DANK, FORMER BOMBERS SPORTS SCIENTIST
On what the Bombers' hierarchy knew: "There was a very significant involvement from Dean (Robinson) as the high-performance manager, there was detailed discussion with James Hird, there was detailed discussion with the club doctor (Bruce Reid). They were sort of the main people involved in the knowledge of the program."

On coaches taking supplements: "A couple of coaches were using supplements that were a little bit outside the WADA code but, again, they were entitled to it and nothing illegal in those". - February 11

ANDREW DEMETRIOU, AFL CHIEF EXECUTIVE
"Under the ASADA rules whether you knew or not it's no excuse . . . they are the WADA rules." - February 5


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Demon aiming for new heights

Melbourne forward Jeremy Howe is looking forward to a big 2013. Picture: Wayne Ludbey Source: Herald Sun

MELBOURNE coach Mark Neeld and his staff have increased player workloads by another 15 per cent this summer in a bid to climb the AFL ladder.

Forward Jeremy Howe said the players virtually did a pre-season program before the actual summer slog to prepare for the 2013 season.

"Last year, they came in with a set of standards that were required and we were unable to train at that level because we weren't fit enough," Howe said.

"But through the extensive program that we did leading into this pre-season, we were able to up the ante by 15 per cent in workloads, so the boys are in great shape at the moment.

"Everyone knew it was going to be a lot tougher. All pre-seasons are tough, but it did go up another level."

Neeld has always emphasised that he and elite performance manager David Misson are into only the second of a three-year program to have the Demons physically conditioned to maintain sustained success.


The effects of that summer schedule will be measured at Melbourne's first intra-club practice match at Casey Fields in Cranbourne on Friday morning.

"Training has gone up the last few weeks in a game sense and it has stepped up again. Everyone has kind of got the bug and we're hanging out for games now. It will be good to have a solid hit-out before the NAB Cup and then that can set you up for a good year," Howe said.

"The whole group has come back in a lot better shape than previously, which has put us a lot further ahead than this time last year. I suppose like anyone, you want to be out there as long as you can and stay injury-free."

Howe, midfielder Jordie McKenzie and forward Neville Jetta shared the excitement of a new season with a class of kids when they reinforced the importance of reading during a visit to Lynbrook Primary School in Cranbourne North yesterday.

And Howe, who won Mark of the Year and was fourth in contested marks in the AFL last year, promised his trademark spring-heeled leaps and "hangers" will be on show again.


"I try not to make too many unrealistic attempts, but if I think I can have a crack at it, I generally jump at the ball. I don't know whether it's timing or what, I just imagine there's no-one in front of me," he said.

Howe, drafted from Tasmania in 2010, emphatically dismissed the prolonged tanking saga as any distraction.

"You never hear any of the boys talk about it. We've got people, obviously, dealing with it. The majority of the guys weren't even there (in 2009), there has been a fair clearout in the last couple of years," he said.

"Hopefully it's just a little blip and there's no more of those."

An interview with Thompson can't go by without mentioning former Bulldog Barry Hall and the pair's infamous stoush.

"I don't think (it's going away)," he laughs. "We had a photoshoot the other day and someone asked me about it.

"I still get frustrated a bit, sometimes just the way people talk about it but generally I laugh at it now."


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Buckley wants the specifics

Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley says the cloud over players, and the lack of information filtering down to clubs is tarnishing the sport.

Essendon boss Ian Robson responds to calls for heads to roll following Stephen Dank's interview last night.

Clean: Collingwood players are addressed by coach Nathan Buckley on the track yesterday. Picture: Rob Leeson Source: Herald Sun

COLLINGWOOD coach Nathan Buckley says players' reputations are being tarnished by a "frustrating" lack of detail supporting claims they are using illegal substances.

After reviewing supplement programs back to 2002 yesterday, Collingwood is "very" confident it is clean.

The AFL has confirmed Essendon, and one player from another club, are under investigation by the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority.

Buckley yesterday said the vagueness of the Australian Crime Commission's findings was damaging football.

"It is yet to be proven about Essendon's situation and we need to wait for the facts to understand that," Buckley said.

"But I wouldn't think it (performance-enhancing drug use) would be wide-spread and I think all of us have seen it watered down as the time has gone on over the last week or so.

"To the point where there is an element of frustration in that, 'OK, if you are going to make those claims, be specific about them because you have tarnished the sport and brought individuals of great quality and reputation into disrepute'.

"That's not good for the code and we need to fix it."

Calls to sack Hird off the mark

Buckley said "as a sports fan, as much as a coach, I want answers" about performance-enhancing drug use in the AFL, but was happy Collingwood's supplement program was clean.

Spotlight moves to the coaches

"We take TGA-approved substances and proteins and carbohydrates ... all that are well-recognised brands that have all got the rubber stamp," he said.

"We are not a club that lives in the grey area. We believe that there is plenty of one-percenters to be found in things that are in our control and that are quite mundane."

A long time friend of Essendon coach James Hird, Buckley yesterday expressed sympathy for his Bombers' counterpart, amid calls for Hird to resign due to the doping authority probe.

"I can't imagine how he would feel," Buckley said.

"I'm sure he would never have contemplated it, even in his darkest times. But I'm sure with his qualities he will navigate the club through."

Geelong coach Chris Scott says the decision-making processes used at the Cats mean they have nothing to worry about, concerning the ACC investigation into drugs and organised crime in sport.


The AFL has also warned clubs about the lurking danger of outlaw bikies mixing with players.

Buckley said clubs must guard against association with the underworld .

"The majority of people who are involved in footy are of good character," he said.

"But when you are as big as we are there are going to be people who take short cuts."

Geelong coach Chris Scott also called for patience.

"As a competition, we've got to suck it up and just ride it out," he said. 


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Cats now short of talls

Geelong ruckman Hamish McIntosh will miss three weeks after minor knee surgery. Picture: Michael Klein Source: Herald Sun

GEELONG is taking a long-term view on ruckman Hamish McIntosh, whose start to the season is threatened by a knee injury.

McIntosh will be out for about three weeks after having surgery this week on the same knee that limited his season to only seven games at North Melbourne last year.

Cats coach Chris Scott said yesterday the surgery was only minor.

"He understood and we understood that it wasn't going to be smooth sailing with Hamish," Scott said.

"He came in with an existing injury that was significant. There was always a little bit of a risk taking him and we accepted there might be some minor setbacks.

"We're still extremely confident that over the medium-term, a period of years, he's going to be a very valuable acquisition."

Scott said arthroscopic surgery to remove fluid from the back of McIntosh's knee was "loosely related" to his problems last year.


"It's the same knee, different problem. Very minor though, something that the surgery can fix quite quickly, the surgeon tells us," he said.

"He could have put up with some discomfort for a long time or we could have nipped it in the bud and tried to give him some relief short-term, so we think that's going to be the best outcome for him."

With Dawson Simpson also out after back surgery and young ruckman Nathan Vardy not making the trip to Perth this weekend for the Cats' NAB Cup opener, Geelong's ruck stocks look thin.

"Two ruckmen who aren't in ideal shape right at the moment is a little bit concerning," Scott said.

"We'll take a couple of rookie ruckmen over (to Perth), plus Trent West.

"It's almost vindication for our policy of having four ruckmen on our list. It's not ideal having a couple injured but we do have some cover."

Scott also ruled out James Kelly and Paul Chapman for the trip west, but said Jimmy Bartel and Travis Varcoe would be among a large squad for the weekend.

Kelly had post-season surgery on his hip, but has been back in full training, and Bartel was wearing a moonboot at the end of the season.

Varcoe played only one game last year, his season ruined by a foot injury.

"He's had a lot of bad luck in the last year and a half and he's starting to look really good on the track," Scott said.

"I think he's just keen to get out and play a real game. He's trained well and he's looked good on the track, but it doesn't mean much until you can put that good form into practice on the field in a real game."


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AFL still silent on 'second' club

AFL boss Andrew Demetriou is keeping mum. Source: Herald Sun

THE AFL says it has been advised not to notify the second club with an alleged rogue doper.

Frustrated clubs have called on the league to name the team and take the heat off the 16 clubs unaffected by the doping scandal.

It emerged yesterday that an agency other than the Australian Crime Commission was the source of the information given to the AFL last week about the alleged performance-enhancing drug user.

The AFL last night maintained it still could not "out" the second club, despite protestations from football figures such as Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley about the lack of specific information.

A league spokesman said: "What we have been advised is that we can notify those clubs that are mentioned in the ACC report as having vulnerabilities to the use of prohibited substances - but we cannot be any more specific than that."

Up to nine AFL clubs were mentioned by the ACC as being vulnerable to problems with illicit drugs.

Those clubs, and the "second club", if it is not one of the nine, will be told formally of their vulnerability during private briefings starting on Tuesday.

Talks with all 18 clubs about the crime commission report and the league's response begin that day.

ACC chief executive John Lawler gave the green light to the AFL and NRL on Monday to inform clubs about some details from their 12-month probe into sport and drugs.

On Monday, the NRL told six of its clubs that they were the focus of investigations surrounding the Crime Commission report.

Those clubs are Manly, North Queensland, Cronulla, Canberra, Newcastle and Penrith.


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Great Scott a Roos leader

North Melbourne defender Scott Thompson has enjoyed his hectic preseason. Picture: Michael Klein Source: Herald Sun

IT'S been a fairly hectic off-season for Scott Thompson.

The North Melbourne defender came runner-up in the best and fairest, got engaged, spent three weeks in Utah where he caught a serious staph infection, got married and then yesterday was promoted to the Roos leadership group.

That's called not wasting the summer.

Thompson is excited about his elevation to the six-man leadership team led by captain Andrew Swallow.

"As a junior I was always sort of the captain of the team at school and stuff so it's something I've always strived to be, a leader in the team," Thompson said.

"I won't be changing anything but it's going to be very exciting.

"If you look at our list, it's so young and we have probably got about 10 guys on the 40-game mark so it's really an exciting time.


"Some exciting footy was played in the second half of the year and it's a good time to be at the club.

"We have a pretty tough draw to start off so we'll know where we're at after the first eight weeks."

Thompson proposed to his girlfriend, Lauren, in October and rather than wait another 12 months, they got married in December.

"It was a shotgun wedding, but not really because she's not pregnant. We thought it was either this December or next December and we didn't want to wait around as we'd been living together for three years," he said.

North's midfield shines in hitout

The day before he left the Roos' training camp in Utah, Thompson got a small cut inside his nose. By the time he got home that had developed into a serious infection needing hospital treatment.

"My face was all blown up and it was only a few days out from the wedding so it was an anxious time but it all worked out in the end," he said.

After stringing together 86 games, Thompson, 26, missed two games for the first time last year.

"It was the first two games I've ever missed in my life," he said. "It was a back-related tight hamstring and I was pretty disappointed to miss those two.

"I thought I was right for the second one but they wouldn't let me.


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